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[gregor]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Icewolf @ Jun 1 2007, 07:27 AM) [snapback]292453[/snapback]</div>

I'd like to give a statement to Seb's point B:

I really have loads of knowledge from the internet. Sorry to tell you as an assertor of the profession but:
My teachers failed in an quite big extent, though I was at the highest school level in germany (we call it "Gymnasium", english people may be confused by that).
There was 10% of the teachers that I personally liked for their personality the others were bourgeois or just a$$holes, since they would kick you behind, when you could do the least about it.
I met lots of really competent people on the web that explain thoroughly, at a appropriate pace and just make you remember what they told you -> you LEARN it. Especially when you can exercise in real life. For me that were some computer interiors.

I just want to say:
The young people become more and more pessimistic and cynical or even sarcastical. They make fun of people who can't do their job. Be it police, teacher, lawyer, whatever.
Their view gets wider in an earlier age.

And we're not prepared.
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i see what you mean, cause i too went on this kind of school. and on this type of school they are supposed to wide your perspective, but too many times teachers are not ready for it and instead narrow your perspective. lucklly when i was going there i met with internet that already had graphics developed and more ot offer than just some scientific data. it attracted me so much that i bought a modem and arranged a connection. suddenly i got all information that teacher werent' really willing to give it to me. i mean they could have looked for it and told me next day instead the asnwer was : "maybe" or "i do not know that" way too many times.

[Icewolf]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(gregor @ Jun 1 2007, 10:33 AM) [snapback]292466[/snapback]</div>

[...]i mean they could have looked for it and told me next day instead the asnwer was : "maybe" or "i do not know that" way too many times.[/b]

To me it was worse. "You're wrong!" or "There's no such thing!"
Worst case: On the board we made a mind map for trade(in the english performance class, not the basic class). I raised my arm and was given the word. I said "barter". And he would say :"I never heard that., I doubt that it exists!" I translated the word or him.
End of the story was we went to the school-library in the break and I had to show him the word in the dictionary and he had to concede in front of the class that I was right.

I could tell hours of these stories...

[Grinder]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Icewolf @ Jun 1 2007, 08:45 AM) [snapback]292468[/snapback]</div>

On the board we made a mind map for trade(in the english performance class, not the basic class). I raised my arm and was given the word. I said "barter". And he would say :"I never heard that., I doubt that it exists!" I translated the word or him.
End of the story was we went to the school-library in the break and I had to show him the word in the dictionary and he had to concede in front of the class that I was right.[/b]

Been there, done that.
About C:
The biggest problem is that most people at this age seem to think that all those musicians are already wealthy enough, so downloading 2 or 3 of their albums won't hurt them. In my experience, people who base arguments on stuff like that are hopeless cases. They won't change.