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[Tulac]

I very much doubt you can find it anywhere. McDonalds and supermarkets/butcheries have the same suppliers in the end.

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I very much doubt you can find it anywhere. McDonalds and supermarkets/butcheries have the same suppliers in the end.
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In Canada, the sources of beef for MacDonalds and meat counters are very different. Other nations are probably similar, except where price points differ. Meat counters get their beef from young animals that are slaughtered as soon as they stop growing enough to justify continued feeding (about five months old). MacDonalds gets its beef from dairy cows that can no longer produce milk, but are still healthy enough to walk into the slaughterhouse (nobody eats a down cow, they might not even be used for petfood), they can be over ten years old.

The old dairy cow is tougher, but actually has more flavour, and you cannot really use it for more than hamburger and/or stewing beef. Commercial beef differs from veal only by a number of weeks and enough iron to prevent anemia.

I do not know if you can find these groups outside of the Americas (they came here to escape religious persecution), but the Amish, Mennonites, and other really conservative groups produce organically raised meat for only a small premium over the supermarket price.

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McDonalds is just symbol of that way of life, but it's not the cause.[/b]

They rape the third world a little bit too.
Then they pump enough money into charities to get their name on it before never thinking of it again.

Crap food isn't a big deal, but you'd think that much collective evil could muster the resources to provide a decent burger.
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That was Burger King. They bought free range beef from Brazil that was grazed on cleared rainforest. However, as rainforests have usually taken nearly everything out of the soil (they are, naturally, very big on recycling), the pastures quickly become unable to support much grazing, so more rainforest has to be cleared.