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[Jake Grey]

Dosraider: Thanks for the info. Do I take it that that excludes shipping costs in most cases? No promises about peripherals, I'm afraid; the ones that work will most likely be sold separately. Everything will however come with a warranty of some description, the details of which are not yet finalised.
Fifth Horseman (May I call you Reggie? :amused: By 'reconditioned', I mean that they will be put into as close to as-new condition as possible, with any worn or defective components replaced. There'll probably be a few 'new' machines assembled from several non-functional ones, as well.
Krugerfang: Because even the best emulator is no substitute for the original hardware, even if you can afford a machine powerful enough to run one without difficulty.

[dosraider]

Prices on Kapaza.be are always 'cash and carry', if the buyer wants home delivery the extra costs are fully for the buyer.
Not a big problem in a small country as Belgium .....:laugh:

@Kugerfang: lots of people still use old dos based DB programs, and other similar programs, dosbox works great for gaming, but 80% of those old dosprogs won't run in it.-(try to get a label print prog to work in dosbox with an antique daisy wheel printer .......)-
Another reason? Why would I fire up my XP or Vista when I have some 10 minutes to lose and on top of that dosbox when I can boot a dos 486/PI in 4 seconds?
Not enough? Some games only will accept a joystick through a real hardware game port, the joystick simply won't work on an emulated one.
And of course, my grandkids love those ol'PCs.
Etcetera etcetera etcetera ............

But rest assured, for most of the dosgames I also prefer dosbox.

Originally Posted by Jake Grey

No promises about peripherals, I'm afraid; the ones that work will most likely be sold separately.

That could be a problem, I may suppose you know that most modern keyboards/mouses/.... won't work directly with those ol'PCs-(DIN plugs!)-? So if you sell them separate it means extra cost for the buyer.

[Jake Grey]

I can see the problem, but unfortunately there may not necessarily be enough working peripherals to include one of each with every base unit. Keyboards and mice can certainly be shipped free with a base unit, of course.

[Sebatianos]

Originally Posted by dosraider

That could be a problem, I may suppose you know that most modern keyboards/mouses/.... won't work directly with those ol'PCs-(DIN plugs!)-? So if you sell them separate it means extra cost for the buyer.

Yeah, but I dread to go back to a wheel mouse! I mean, those things started acting up on you in a month or so and you had to clean them all the time and stuff - and still they were hard to use for precision clicking.

The keyboards are less of a problem, but still...

[Eagle of Fire]

I'd never consider purchasing anything below a P3. Really no point in doing so with DOSBox and everything...

And yes, I started using PC with a 286 and onward...

Yeah, but I dread to go back to a wheel mouse!

Actually, I prefered those wheel mouses over laser mouses. I never had a problem for precision. Only the maintenance part was a problem.

[The Fifth Horseman]

By 'reconditioned', I mean that they will be put into as close to as-new condition as possible, with any worn or defective components replaced. There'll probably be a few 'new' machines assembled from several non-functional ones, as well.

Assuming the machines will be fully functional (I presume you're going to test the components thoroughly?), I'd say about $20-$25 a piece is perfectly reasonable.

I may suppose you know that most modern keyboards/mouses/.... won't work directly with those ol'PCs-(DIN plugs!)

You might want to know that the PS/2 keyboard connectors are electronically identical with DIN ones. Have a look:
http://pinouts.ru/Inputs/KeyboardPC5_pinout.shtml
http://pinouts.ru/Inputs/KeyboardPC6_pinout.shtml
It's easy to either replace the cable with one that has a 5-pin DIN connector (as long as the keyboard's PCB labels the connections properly) or solder together a simple adapter. 101/102 key PS/2 keyboards are much easier to find (and in much better shape, usually).

COM mice are a tougher thing, since the PS/2 ones are not normally backwards-compatibile (unless they're so called "combo" mice capable of operating with both PS/2 and COM signaling).

Actually, I prefered those wheel mouses over laser mouses. I never had a problem for precision. Only the maintenance part was a problem.

Same here, though the maintenance is not much of a problem when you have a sewing needle (or something similar) around.

[Sebatianos]

Originally Posted by Eagle of Fire

Actually, I prefered those wheel mouses over laser mouses. I never had a problem for precision. Only the maintenance part was a problem.

Lucky you, I had to clean the mouse every second week no matter what mouse-pad I was using. True, I never bought a heavy-duty mouse, usually just the cheapest article there was, but still... The laser mice don't give me any problems whatsoever, so I realy prefer them.

Oh and about prices... OK, it's not a PC, it's C64, but I just payed 60€ for a Commodore 64, 1541 floppy drive and an original C64 printer (all in a perfect working condition). I could have probably gotten it cheaper, but I don't think 60€ is too much for it - and it's purely out of sentimental reasons - because I really can't think of any reason why I'd need (a third fully working) a C64 or it's printer.

[Blood-Pigggy]

Also laser mouses have a tendency to freak out and start spinning the cursor in random directions. Especially while gaming, I don't know why they do it, but they've done it on every PC I've ever had a laser mouse for.

[Tulac]

That never happened to me. I remember that I used to change my wheel mouses at least every 6 months or so, while the optical ones last for at least 2 years.

[gregor]

Originally Posted by Blood-Pigggy

Also laser mouses have a tendency to freak out and start spinning the cursor in random directions. Especially while gaming, I don't know why they do it, but they've done it on every PC I've ever had a laser mouse for.

happened to me too. then i changed a mousepad. Now it works fine.

Btw i am using this kind of cheap pad: http://www.mimovrste.com/artikel/114...isko-enobarvna

description says it's particulary good for mouse with no wheels. and it really is.