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[The Fifth Horseman]

Sure, sure... the only people beside Kosta himself who could access that information are the admins.
We don't check it without having a good reason, which pretty much means we barely ever do it at all.

You have no legitimate ned for that information and if it got out it could be used to steal my idtenty. With my name, city, state and biuirthdate anyone who wanted to steal my identy could easily do so.
I suggest all users put false inforamtion in the fields.

End this paranoia bullshit already, will you?
Name, location and birth date are hardly sufficient for anyone to steal your identity. They'd also need your social ID number (which is called different things in different countries). Not to mention a purpose to use your identity for.

Also. Your birth date is only required when the forum displays user birthdays for current day, but you have to re-enter it in the forum profile for that to work. And there you can choose if you want it displayed to begin with, and if so then how (as in: age only, date only or full age & date).

[Kugerfang]

Big Brother is watching.
"War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength."

Are you stupid or something?

[Japo]

I dunno why all that information is required... Just enter false data if you want.

[peace01]

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman

Sure, sure... the only people beside Kosta himself who could access that information are the admins.
We don't check it without having a good reason, which pretty much means we barely ever do it at all.


End this paranoia bullshit already, will you?
Name, location and birth date are hardly sufficient for anyone to steal your identity. They'd also need your social ID number (which is called different things in different countries). Not to mention a purpose to use your identity for.

Also. Your birth date is only required when the forum displays user birthdays for current day, but you have to re-enter it in the forum profile for that to work. And there you can choose if you want it displayed to begin with, and if so then how (as in: age only, date only or full age & date).

Ever here of a phone book with name, birthdate, and ext location yu can simple go to a phone book and find thier address. With just that much info you can get a credit card in someone's elses name. that is teh info needed to find someones sociaalsecurity number. And, the main point it isn't nescary for them to collect this information.
Isp will give them location, Age and name is unimportant.

[dosraider]

Originally Posted by peace01

Ever here of a phone book with name, birthdate, and ext location yu can simple go to a phone book and find thier address. With just that much info you can get a credit card in someone's elses name. that is teh info needed to find someones sociaalsecurity number. And, the main point it isn't nescary for them to collect this information.
Isp will give them location, Age and name is unimportant.

peace01, make a list, on that list every one who has that info.
Put on that list every time you ever provided that info, school, biblio, work, whatevers and whatnots, hotels, any time you gladly provided that info to complete strangers.
Don't forget to add the times your parents had to give detailed info about you when you were a small child.

You may have nightmares now.

[peace01]

Originally Posted by dosraider

peace01, make a list, on that list every one who has that info.
Put on that list every time you ever provided that info, school, biblio, work, whatevers and whatnots, hotels, any time you gladly provided that info to complete strangers.
Don't forget to add the times your parents had to give detailed info about you when you were a small child.

You may have nightmares now.

Why give itwhen it isn't nesacary there is no legitmate nee dhere so As my point the information shopuld be optional not required as it is now. If you want to give it out that is fine but don't tell me I have to give out information that isn't nesacary. Location can be found from Logging isp.
Name and birth date is unnessacary. WIthmy name and location someone can findmy address in the phone book with a country records search they can find me from my birth date. Why give one more person information the don't need. All yur personal information should be on a Need to know basis and frankluyy the site administrator doesn't need to know.
And, becayuse they made it mandaroty i gave false information.
the proper action is for them to switch this information to optional where it belongs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman

You don't even need their name or birthdate to begin with.
If they used same username anywhere else and ever posted one of their e-mail adresses in public, they already left themselves wide open. Getting any other information about that person they might have left online becomes a matter of research time only.

I hope our new friend here is aware of this.

And as a side note. Peace01, did you register a different account on the site before? Because having two separate accounts is against the rules.

No I did not I did try to register the same account witha different email but i never recieved a email as it does eat some email from some sites. So I register the exact same name with the new email.
Btw, you still have no need for my name or birth dtate and it won't keep me from habving two accounts if i choose to, As firo location ISP tells you that. My point is and has been this information should be made optional you ahve absolutely no eed for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by nvrmre

While it is true that identify theft does occur, there is a point when caution becomes paranoia.

I could walk down the street and get mugged... does that mean that I am never going to leave my house?

The odds of being a victim to identity theft go down if you try top be conscientious and responsible when on the net. Like - stay away from shady sites, keep your computer clean from viruses, keyloggers, etc, don't be gullible with scams, etc.

It can happen to anybody, though my assumption is that the thieves prefer the easy targets - less work for them. Or they do something massive like breach a bank or medical clinic's records system. Using a forum registration with a few bits of info to try and steal an identity would seem rather futile - who's to say that information is even factual?

You give much more detailed and potentially damaging information out when you do any sort of online shopping. Or even offline for that matter, if you use anything other than cash to buy things. Even your mail has more detailed information, and think about how many hands that passes through.

Use your judgement - if you don't feel comfortable, don't do it.

The point is and was that the information has no bussiness being mandatory!
It should bve optional. That is where you guys have it wrong. If I don't want to reveal my name location or birth date that is mshould be my choice. It isn't nesacary and doesn't help teh site in the least to know my name or birth date. and if they want my location they can get it from the og of my isp number. If you want to give out the inforamation more powerr to you!!

[The Fifth Horseman]

Originally Posted by peace01

Why give itwhen it isn't nesacary there is no legitmate nee dhere so As my point the information shopuld be optional not required as it is now. If you want to give it out that is fine but don't tell me I have to give out information that isn't nesacary.
And, becayuse they made it mandaroty i gave false information.
the proper action is for them to switch this information to optional where it belongs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As firo location ISP tells you that. My point is and has been this information should be made optional you ahve absolutely no eed for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Btw, you still have no need for my name or birth dtate and
The point is and was that the information has no bussiness being mandatory!
It should bve optional. That is where you guys have it wrong. If I don't want to reveal my name location or birth date that is mshould be my choice. It isn't nesacary and doesn't help teh site in the least to know my name or birth date. and if they want my location they can get it from the og of my isp number.
If you want to give out the inforamation more powerr to you!!

Learn to read, kiddo. While I agree that a lot of this should be optional, at the moment it is not and we can't change it even if we bloody wanted to, so stop the fucking drama!
If we could change it, we'd have done so months ago!

Location can be found from Logging isp.

Dynamic IP. Read about it.

Name and birth date is unnessacary. WIthmy name and location someone can findmy address in the phone book with a country records search they can find me from my birth date.

I take it you didn't understand the Sarah Connor reference?
Fact is, anyone can do it if they wanted to.

Why give one more person information the don't need. All yur personal information should be on a Need to know basis and frankluyy the site administrator doesn't need to know.

You're getting ahead of yourself here.
As the administrators, we have complete access to all data on the site and all data entered in user profiles. It's right there in the job description.
It's not your place to dictate what we need or not need to know. Understood?

And by the way, did you ever complain to the administrators of an online store or an auction site that you had to provide any personal information when registering there? They have access to it, you know.

No I did not I did try to register the same account witha different email but i never recieved a email as it does eat some email from some sites. So I register the exact same name with the new email.

Account name used was peace, and it was registered with an AOL e-mail adress. The only two differences between that and the one used to register your current account are the domain and number of zeroes in the username. Plus, both have the same ISP.

it won't keep me from habving two accounts if i choose to,

"It" won't.
But then there's grumpy ol' Horseman, who can merge the accounts into one, ban them, or delete them both and wipe out every trace of their existence. In other words... trying to piss me off is suicidal. Succeeding marks you as a candidate for Darwin Awards.

[peace01]

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman

Learn to read, kiddo. While I agree that a lot of this should be optional, at the moment it is not and we can't change it even if we bloody wanted to, so stop the fucking drama!
If we could change it, we'd have done so months ago!


Dynamic IP. Read about it.


I take it you didn't understand the Sarah Connor reference?
Fact is, anyone can do it if they wanted to.


You're getting ahead of yourself here.
As the administrators, we have complete access to all data on the site and all data entered in user profiles. It's right there in the job description.
It's not your place to dictate what we need or not need to know. Understood?

And by the way, did you ever complain to the administrators of an online store or an auction site that you had to provide any personal information when registering there? They have access to it, you know.


Account name used was peace, and it was registered with an AOL e-mail adress. The only two differences between that and the one used to register your current account are the domain and number of zeroes in the username. Plus, both have the same ISP.

"It" won't.
But then there's grumpy ol' Horseman, who can merge the accounts into one, ban them, or delete them both and wipe out every trace of their existence. In other words... trying to piss me off is suicidal. Succeeding marks you as a candidate for Darwin Awards.

I do have the right to decided what you need to know when it is my eronal information.

I Have never used an auction site and very rarely have ever used online stores.

the number of zeros shoudl have been the same the other one i fugrred would have been deleted because I never conrfirmed it. As AOL doesbn't for some reason accept mail from your server. I never recieved the conformation number with the password from aol. I have had this problem with aol on several emails so I got a new web based email account. I refused to sign up with Hot mail because they required all outgoing mail to have your real name on it.

Eprsonally I would rahter you did delete the AOL information. Which i figured would have happened automatically when i didn't confirm or sign in after so long.

[The Fifth Horseman]

the number of zeros shoudl have been the same the other one i fugrred would have been deleted because I never conrfirmed it. As AOL doesbn't for some reason accept mail from your server. I never recieved the conformation number with the password from aol. I have had this problem with aol on several emails so I got a new web based email account. I refused to sign up with Hot mail because they required all outgoing mail to have your real name on it.

Eprsonally I would rahter you did delete the AOL information. Which i figured would have happened automatically when i didn't confirm or sign in after so long.

That's odd, because two posts were made from that account on the forums.
I've sent you a PM on the matter.