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Old 24-11-2008, 05:57 PM   #1
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A fine point is that, if the angel needs to keep on going infinitely to win, he won't ever win. But this belongs to the infinity discussion, and maybe heavenly beings play with different rules. L0L

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If the devil focuses on building a large "moat" of pits and then takes out the borders of the large "island" formed that way before the angel can run out... yeah, he can win.
Can he? The number of tiles he must remove to create a sqare island of side D surrounded by a moat N tiles wide, is 4DN+4N². That takes him an equal number of rounds. In that time the angel can traverse 4DN²+4N³ tiles.

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The angel's [N] can be anything from 1 to infinity. For angels with low [N], it's definitely possible to trap them.
Even if N=1, the angel could traverse 4D+4 tiles by the time the devil builds a moat 1 tile across surrounding a square D tiles across.

I'm not going to think of all the possible strategies now, so I don't have an answer, but I wouldn't bet for the devil--perhaps out of principle. :bleh:
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Old 24-11-2008, 06:19 PM   #2
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The angel can't win.
Period.
The devil will get the angel and the devil will screw the angel.

Devils cheat, ya know, that's why they are devils.
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Old 25-11-2008, 08:49 AM   #3
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The angel can't win.
Period.
The devil will get the angel and the devil will screw the angel.

Devils cheat, ya know, that's why they are devils.
:nuts:
The old Belgian has a point. That's how he ended up with grandchildren. :bleh:
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Old 25-11-2008, 09:08 AM   #4
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How did we default to innuendo again? It's bizarre.

I think you do it on porpoise...



Hahahaaa.
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Old 25-11-2008, 10:40 AM   #5
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guys i made that topic 2 days ago and there are already hentai tentacles in this thread

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Angel cannot win unless you can define infinity.

Angel lose.

End of story.
that is not as simple as you might think, if you think about it a bit.. anyways, if you prove that angel can never win, john h. conway at princeton university offers you 1000 USD in reward=P

100$ if you prove that angel of sufficiently high power can win
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Old 25-11-2008, 11:20 AM   #6
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Angel always moves the furthest possible distance on one axis in one direction. Where's my money, honey?
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Old 25-11-2008, 12:17 PM   #7
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wouldn't it just be simple to make a cross and when the gap is too big the angel is trapped?

This also seems to imply the angel would never win.
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Old 25-11-2008, 12:53 PM   #8
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Angel always moves the furthest possible distance on one axis in one direction. Where's my money, honey?
stupidiest option available, actually
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