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[kittybrod]

Originally Posted by dosraider

1: install dosbox 0.72, you don't need to deinstall older versions, will install in its own folder and create its own startmenu items.
*Don't copy your old dosboxconfig into it should you have your mounts added or such, they're not compatible cross-version, edit the new one manually( IF needed).*
2: Did you INSTALL the game in dosbox?
3: rerun sound setup in dosbox and choose SB or better instead of Gravis. If you use autodetect disable GUS in dosboxconfig first.


4: Still problems? More details, your mount lines (ALL of them), inputs, config choices ... etcetera.


Don't use Gravis, as stated in the dosbox readme, it's the worst choice you can make. Dosbox does NOT include GUS drivers out of the box.

Game doesn't find the files it needs.
Sounds as a borked mount, do you mount a folder as virtual C and then cd gamefolder?
How do you mount your CDdrive?

Okay, I hadn't realized they came out with a newer version, I have been playing other games lately. I will do that. No I installed the game through WinXP because I hate going through the mount process for my CD rom. I run dosbox with the normal config, I don't edit it as I am not quite sure what I am doing.

I will rerun the sound setup, for both games, when they finished installing through WinXP they did the sound setup and found Soundblaster, I NEVER selected Gravis, nor did I even see that as an option. I always use Soundblaster as my sound, or pc speaker if Ican't find soundblaster...

I use mount c c:\
and the C:
and then go to where the games are, I have MOST of the games in a folder called dosgames on my desktop, but menzo and darksun both installed themselves under C:\

I don't mount folders because I am not sure what games I am going to play at times, and so it is easier to mount c and then go from there (I grew up on dos and rememember enough of it to not mess my computer up)

I will try those tomorrow, thanks for the help, and see if they work.

Originally Posted by Eagle of Fire

As Dosraider mentionned, I think your best bet would be to install those games directly from DOSBox. The tricky part is, of course, that if you don't mount your hard drive(s) directly (not recommended if you don't know what you are doing) then you will need to mount the drives exactly in the same way than the installation process the next time you'll want to play.

Always aim for SoundBlaster (the older, the easier for DOSBox to detect... But I usually use SoundBlaster Pro fine with most games) when you install the game, and such "modern" games will all have an autodetect feature anyways. Use that first, tweak as needed if it doesn't work.

If the games still don't work then post back here. There is probably some special memory tweaks to do in DOSBox for them to work well, and I suspect that Menzoberanzan is likely to need some.

Like I said before I always use Soundblaster as well, and that is what my computer always autodetects. I don't know HOW it got to gravis...

I will try reinstalling the games through dosbox and then doing the sound detection through dosbox and see if that will work for menzo. Dark Sun says it needs more conventional memory, so I am not sure this will work for it..

Thanks for all the help, and I will let you know if that works for me

[dosraider]

Originally Posted by kittybrod

I hate going through the mount process for my CD rom. ...

mount d x:\ -t cdrom
That's it, not that hard I would think.
x:\ = your real CDdrive letter under Win.
Always mount your CDdrive as D, some games will only accept D as CDdrive, and always install your game IN dosbox. If it looks for a CD it will find it then, some store the CDdrive letter in a whatever.cfg file

Originally Posted by kittybrod

... when they finished installing through WinXP they did the sound setup and found Soundblaster

XP has a basic SB emulation, problem is that the config params aren't the same as the SB emulated in dosbox.

For Darksun it runs best in dosbox configured as:
Run sound to configure sound params,
Answer no when asked if you want to use two soundcards and choose:
SB PRO 16 ASP
Do NOT accept default settings but choose:

adr 220
IRQ 7
DMA 1

[Mighty Midget]

Seeing you say your computer is peaking on the mem usage: Could you post the specs of your pc? DOSBox is resource hungry, and if your pc is at the low end, that might explain a few things.

[kittybrod]

Originally Posted by Mighty Midget

Seeing you say your computer is peaking on the mem usage: Could you post the specs of your pc? DOSBox is resource hungry, and if your pc is at the low end, that might explain a few things.

I have attached a jpg of my system specs box, let me know if you need something else. I just didn't feel like typing everything in (sorry about that I have a headache right now)

Originally Posted by dosraider

mount d x:\ -t cdrom
That's it, not that hard I would think.
x:\ = your real CDdrive letter under Win.
Always mount your CDdrive as D, some games will only accept D as CDdrive, and always install your game IN dosbox. If it looks for a CD it will find it then, some store the CDdrive letter in a whatever.cfg file


XP has a basic SB emulation, problem is that the config params aren't the same as the SB emulated in dosbox.

For Darksun it runs best in dosbox configured as:
Run sound to configure sound params,
Answer no when asked if you want to use two soundcards and choose:
SB PRO 16 ASP
Do NOT accept default settings but choose:

adr 220
IRQ 7
DMA 1

It isn't hard to do, it is hard for me to REMEMBER, then I have to go through and find the readme or find the instructions in the help and then try to remember (I have a VERY bad memory) I will also try to install both the games in dosbox, and the thing is I tried with menzo today (but not from CD so it wouldn't complete) and I didn't get any red on it, it said my system was okay, yet when I did it under XP it said I needed more extended memory

I will try doing this with them and seeing if I can't get ONE to run at least, though today I was distracted by lands of lore.

Thanks again for the help, and I will try what you have suggested tomorrow (if I can tear myself away from Lands of Lore long enough) and get back to you on whether that works or not. I have just been wanting to reply DarkSun and I never got to finish Menzo from what I rememeber, I don't know why.

[AlumiuN]

Well, your computer is officially twice as good as mine. Anyway, Menzo won't say you have enough extended memory if you are running it in XP, as XP doesn't give DOS programs extended memory, only expanded memory (or vice versa).

[kittybrod]

Originally Posted by AlumiuN

Well, your computer is officially twice as good as mine. Anyway, Menzo won't say you have enough extended memory if you are running it in XP, as XP doesn't give DOS programs extended memory, only expanded memory (or vice versa).

Thanks, I hadn't realized that XP would do that.

[Eagle of Fire]

It isn't hard to do, it is hard for me to REMEMBER,

Write it down?

[kittybrod]

Originally Posted by dosraider

mount d x:\ -t cdrom
That's it, not that hard I would think.
x:\ = your real CDdrive letter under Win.
Always mount your CDdrive as D, some games will only accept D as CDdrive, and always install your game IN dosbox. If it looks for a CD it will find it then, some store the CDdrive letter in a whatever.cfg file


XP has a basic SB emulation, problem is that the config params aren't the same as the SB emulated in dosbox.

For Darksun it runs best in dosbox configured as:
Run sound to configure sound params,
Answer no when asked if you want to use two soundcards and choose:
SB PRO 16 ASP
Do NOT accept default settings but choose:

adr 220
IRQ 7
DMA 1

Okay, i have gotten Menzo to work using this, though I STILL get that gravis error, it doesn't seem to affect my sound or anything...

I just need to finish creating my characters then try Darksun using this. Thanks

EDIT: I just did it using Darksun and that works, so now I have three games to play Thanks for your help.

[dosraider]

Originally Posted by kittybrod

Okay, i have gotten Menzo to work using this, though I STILL get that gravis error, it doesn't seem to affect my sound or anything...

Open dosboxconfig and set GUS=FALSE under header [GUS], this should avoid that error message.

Originally Posted by kittybrod

EDIT: I just did it using Darksun and that works, so now I have three games to play Thanks for your help.

You're welcome, enjoy them.

[kittybrod]

Originally Posted by dosraider

Open dosboxconfig and set GUS=FALSE under header [GUS], this should avoid that error message.


You're welcome, enjoy them.

Thanks, I will try that. I get that gravis error with Darksun as well.. but not Lands of Lore... Oh well, it doesn't impact anything I can find. I have been playing Lands of Lore and Menzo today. Dark sun will have to wait as it is a bit harder for me to control through dosbox (does .72 have a way of resizing the dosbox window to something OTHER than fullscreen?)


Thanks for all your help everyone