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[The Fifth Horseman]

To name three:
Final Frontier (1989)
Herzog Zwei (1989)
Battletech: Crescent Hawks Revenge (1990)

[another_guest]

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman

To name three:
Final Frontier (1989)
Herzog Zwei (1989)
Battletech: Crescent Hawks Revenge (1990)

Thanks! Those names do ring a bell but only because I've seen them before on Abandonia
Back to Warcraft, the second and third never held the same "magic" for me as the very first one, in spite of the clear innovations they brought

[red_avatar]

Originally Posted by The Fifth Horseman

To name three:
Final Frontier (1989)
Herzog Zwei (1989)
Battletech: Crescent Hawks Revenge (1990)

To be fair though, Dune 2 was the first to combine all sorts of ideas into a single game: different units for different factions, a base to build + defenses, resources to gather, factories to make units & vehicles, map-based territory, etc.

Warcraft actually didn't change much about this - despite Blizzard having a lot of fans, they really mostly just took other people's ideas, changed them a little, and made a killing. Blizzard's success lies in polishing up existing formulas - WoW ripped off Everquest for like 80% for example, credit which is rarely given sadly enough.

In any case, Warcraft is a good game but it still had all the weaknesses Dune 2 had: where Dune 2 used slabs, Warcraft used roads. Warcaft's interface was rigid and slow too, you could only select one unit at a time, the story was rather simple and only divulged between missions, etc. In fact, in several places, it was a step backwards.

[Scatty]

Originally Posted by red_avatar

you could only select one unit at a time

That's actually not true, you can select up to 4, I think, units as a group by pressing and holding Shift and clicking on each individually, or by pressing and holding CTRL and drawing a rectangle around some of the units, if there're more than 4 they'll be randomly selected I think.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Scatty is correct.

[red_avatar]

Originally Posted by Scatty

That's actually not true, you can select up to 4, I think, units as a group by pressing and holding Shift and clicking on each individually, or by pressing and holding CTRL and drawing a rectangle around some of the units, if there're more than 4 they'll be randomly selected I think.

You SURE that the original version allowed for this? I'll need to check but it's the first time I heard about that. Or maybe I just never tried holding CTRL .

[Scatty]

Originally Posted by red_avatar

You SURE that the original version allowed for this? I'll need to check but it's the first time I heard about that. Or maybe I just never tried holding CTRL .

Well I don't know if the earliest versions, and what versions there were, didn't have this feature included yet, but the version that I have allows to select the units in such a way, same if I apply a patch on the game's CD to upgrade it to a newer version.

[Japo]

Originally Posted by red_avatar

Or maybe I just never tried holding CTRL .

LOL

[red_avatar]

There was no manual with the Demo and I never played the full game that much either. I only bought it 5 years later and it was just to have. Pizza Tycoon, which I bought at the same time, was far more fun.

[FarSeerPT]

Still i prefer Warcraft lll : The frozen throne.

Online is just... godlike