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[Nick]

Originally posted by Sebatianos+Jan 19 2005, 07:56 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sebatianos @ Jan 19 2005, 07:56 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Can you honestly say its only the US?

The entire world is under the influence of corperations, not just the 'evil' US.
And, when push comes to shove, do politicians really have different goals than CEOs?

Point well taken k:

@Nick:
Do you really remember those old days :whistle:
But seriously - you're talking about muslim world as being nothing but a training base to produce terorist that will kill everybody who isn't muslim. Thet's just silly. Yes - there is a lot off terorism going on and that's BAD. But I have a question: "Do you know why there's so much terorism?"
In my opinion it's very simple (and I can even understand it - NOT SUPORT, just understand). That region of the world now known as the Islamic world once had some great empires (Persian & Otoman are just the most famous). So they have a history that can make them proud in some way. But for a couple of centuries now they have been treated as somebody elses peice of land, that can be turned over to a new owner with all the people living there (it was a part of land that was under the control of: Turks, English, Frenc, Russians (at least some parts for some time) and now apearently US. They are treated as third rate countries - the third world - no one takes them seriously. They are just a part of the bet in some big poker game world superpowers were playing in last 200 years. So I bet they have to be really pissed off and the religion is probably the only thing that can unite them - that's why they are uniting under the call for holy war. That's BAD, but there's no real alternative... What do you thing Russian heroes like Aleksander Newsky were called - they were considered terorists in those days (same as American trappers fighting the red coats, or even freedom fighters in world war 2). But the terorists of today have gotten more bloodthursty, more violent and are killing inocent people (in much larger numbers then ever befor - but then again, the world never had so many people).
That's just a though - so next time you're saying - all muslims are terrorists out to kill us, just remember that it's the "developed and civilized" world that hasn't taken them seriously until they resorted to terorism...
That's no excuse - TERORISM is BAD, but stopping it is a whole different matter. [/b][/quote]
Well, I have the same opinion as you have. But I don't think, that Turks or some Islamics were accumulating anger on us for all that time. Well, of course, it probably had place, but this is not the reason, why they attacking 'developed and civilized' world. I think they attack this world just because it is 'developed and civilized'.
I think, that this world gives us information without filtration. There is lot of lechery and other things, that are showing us on TV. But I disagree with such method of struggling with it, that terrorists using - the terror. Yes, I think, that they are lighting themselves up with their religion to fight with this evil world.
But I didn't say, that all Islamic world train terrorists! Of course, there is good people even in Palestine or USA. But I said, that Muslims are very sensitive to the preaching based on their religion. That's why they are potential terrorists, like I said. People are very impressive, when they are young and know very little about what is right or what is wrong. And in this age they could be persuaded easy like you want it. On this based the upbringing. And more, if one way of comprehension of the world is not understood clearly, such as religion. But Muslims had inverted situation. They lived all the time, since couple of years after death of Mohammed (VII century), with their fanatic loyality to their religion. Christians and more Protestants are don't pay much attention to the postulates of their religion (except radical Protestants, like Puritans, but I don't know, how they act themselves nowadays). So Muslims are listening to the preachs of their priests and it is very hurting theme to them, when they heard about how bad they are living, about US domination and so on. And, mixed with religion, probably sppeches about Mohammed, grandeur of former Ottoman empire, it could have the influence needed on some radical groups of people.
So, you probably noticed, that all women-suicides-terrorists are young. When we had tragedy in "Nord Ost" those women terrorists were about 20 years old (if I remeber correctly). But this is my opinion too about potential terrorists. Maybe I exaggerating.