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[taikara]

@Sebatianos: My name is Taikara. Tai, if you prefer.

According to Darwin, natural selection is the survival of the fittest. In biology, "fitness" is determined by the species ability to successfully reproduce. A species cannot survive if it does not reproduce, and therefore, it is considered "unfit."

[Sebatianos]

@tai: Sorry about the mistake about writing your name. I edited it.

You're right, the survival of the fittest. But the weaker member of the specie can get a chance. And the one of the weakest members that would use that chance would become the fitter (not the fittest) and would be able to preserve his gene pool. So it's again the same thing, but on another level. This would be a sort of a safety mechanism.

Imagine:
8 lions.
5 females
3 males
The strongest male gets the females by chasing the other two males away. 4 females get impregnated - there's still one left. The fitter of the other two would get the chance.
Being sexually active does make you sexually fitter. So if one of those two males would be inactive and the other would "masturbate" - being active, that would make him the fitter one. So the fitter one could have offspring. And because it's the case with many animals that the strongest one chases the rest away and has more females to himself - the sexual activity wothout the female seems a necesary thing. So in that case homosexuality (or rather bi-sexuality) would actually increase the chances for that animal.

[taikara]

Masturbation is not included in the definition of "fitness" because it does not lead to reproduction. Only traits that lead to 1) offspring and 2) offspring that survive to reproduce are considered when analyzing a species fitness in natural selection.

[Sebatianos]

Well I said sexual fitness. Masturbation is a sexul activity, which makes you sexualy fit. And if you are sexually fit then you are more capable to have offspring. I thought that was rather obvious from my previous post...

[ReamusLQ]

since when does practicing a sexual activity make you more sexually fit? How would you DEFINE sexually fit? I mean, one actually has a better chance to impregnate a girl if they DON'T masturbate, because they wouldn't be constantly "drained" and more sperm would be available. And I don't think masturbating makes you sexually fit, because I know many guys who masturbate multiple times a day because they can't get any other action. The lion that gets the lioness, is the bigger, stronger, more feriocious of the bunch, not the one that masturbates the most often.

[xcom freak]

Originally posted by ReamusLQ@Feb 15 2005, 11:56 PM
one actually has a better chance to impregnate a girl if they DON'T masturbate, because they wouldn't be constantly "drained" and more sperm would be available. .

Sperm have 5 day life span if they are not replaced they are more likely to die b4 reaching the ovula.testicules constantly produce but after a self enjoyment they produce more so you have an armada of young healthy homewreckers

[ReamusLQ]

Originally posted by xcom freak+Feb 15 2005, 04:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (xcom freak @ Feb 15 2005, 04:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ReamusLQ@Feb 15 2005, 11:56 PM
one actually has a better chance to impregnate a girl if they DON'T masturbate, because they wouldn't be constantly "drained" and more sperm would be available.* .

Sperm have 5 day life span if they are not replaced they are more likely to die b4 reaching the ovula.testicules constantly produce but after a self enjoyment they produce more so you have an armada of young healthy homewreckers [/b][/quote]
your body produces more because you are constantly taking away from the supply, but I think most guys can tell you that if they stop for awhile, and start again, your body now has that stored up, and you can release a heck of a lot bigger army instead of smaller platoons. Instead of guerilla warfare, one can just drop the nuclear bomb.

[TheVoid]

Originally posted by ReamusLQ@Feb 16 2005, 01:33 AM
your body produces more because you are constantly taking away from the supply, but I think most guys can tell you that if they stop for awhile, and start again, your body now has that stored up, and you can release a heck of a lot bigger army instead of smaller platoons. Instead of guerilla warfare, one can just drop the nuclear bomb.

Now, are we talking about sex or about Command and Conquer?

[xcom freak]

yeah but beleive me a platoon of mamouth tanks can destroy an army of rangers anytime!!!!

The void is confused.

[ReamusLQ]

But a massly built up army of Prism Tanks fully ranked can wipe out anything that comes their way. And a fully charged Weather Storm is often much more effective than a platoon of Mamouth tanks.

My question still stands, I don't see how masturbating gives you a sexual advantage, or makes you sexually fit.

As for Void...it's ok man...you'll learn when you're older ;-)