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[omg]

smoking update: i havnt had a smoke yet. tension starting to build though.

[Doc Adrian]

A big bag of candy or a pack of gum used to help me...glad to hear your hanging in there

[omg]

unfortunantly the wifey has got my banc card so i cant succumb and go buy ciggeretes. this also means i cant go buy sweets either.... ive only been awake 2 hours and this craving is getting nasty. i reckon by tonight im gonna be in full killing people mood.

[Evad]

Originally posted by A. J. Raffles@Jun 11 2005, 12:24 AM
Sorry to be off-topic yet again, but win98, could you please stop double-posting? There is a reason why you can edit your posts, you know... :whistle:

As for the whole seeking pleasure/avoiding pain thing, evad, that sounds a bit like a simpler version of Epicure to me. But wouldn't that be more or less saying that the smoker himself is incapable of making a deliberate decision to stop? To be honest, I'd like to believe that's not true...

Well it was a basic generalization, and those can be dangerous, but I personally believe it is true. I don't mean to say that anyone starts smoking thinking it is good for you(at least not anymore) but after a while a fog is created, and the benificial effects mask the serious and dangerous consiquences of this habit.. The point is it IS possible to make the choice, but you have to change your patterns. Habits like this don't start over night and they don't break over night either. I don't mean to say we can't chose, sometimes there is no choice but pain; life can throw us a curve ball or two. But when it comes to smoking there is a choice, but it's not an easy one, and in order for succsess you have to either be at that magic moment when you have just plain had enough and just quit(I hope you guys are lucky enough to get this) or you have to be scientific and decipher your thought processes and restructure them. I think of the human mind like a computer, and as our concious mind as a programmer. Garbage in garbage out.

[Oogaboogadoogaman]

Wow. Evad, are you a psychologist in real life?
Really good advice, there.
omg (and everyone else who smokes),
even though it sounds like a bad way to go(I have never tried it, not smoking myself), you should try the "slowly cut down thing"
Have your wife watch over you and help you. Set a goal say, 20 cigarettes a day (I dont know how much you have a day). Have 20 cigs a day for two days. Then go down one. Have 19 cigs for 3 DAYS. Then have 18 cigs for 4 DAYS. Then 17 for 5 DAYS. This way, you very slowly go down, minimizing the pain and suffering induced by the cravings. It will take 230 days, according to my calculations, but this way you reverting back to smoking is almost impossible. Your body is given just a lliiiiiiiittle bit less each day until you don't need it at all. Just an idea, hope it helps! k:

[omg]

tried it. it doesnt work. as people wiser than i have already said on this thread all you do with that technique is prolong your agony, however im so desperate for a *** right now im tempted to go buy some baccy and ration it out, just 10 a day would be cool, i have gone through stages of smoking a lot more than that, the other week i was smoking up to 30 + a day, this week has been a drastic reduction, i quit for a day then smoke, quit for a day then smoke, quit for half a day then smoke ect. hopefully im going to get the knack of this soon.

[TheVoid]

I think that he wants to stop the habit way before 230 days... :blink:
I could do it in a week, but he's been smoking longer than me (10 years vs. 4 years)....with some mathematical proportions, he could make it in bit more than 2 weeks, with a lot of willpower and the support of friends and relatives. Not to mention the whole Abandonia community.

Btw, omg, just for curiosity: what cigs do/ did you use to smoke?

[omg]

i used to smoke samson tobacco. the finest dutch rolling tobacco knowen to man. used to roll other things with it to... scince i stopped using the additives i started smoking 3 times as many unadultared roll ups, which led to the aforementioned very nasty lung pains.
i have to quit this sh*t. im sitting here staring at some money i just found. i dont know how long im gonna hold out, im trying to focus on the pain in my chest as a reosen not to go buy.
i ask again, why isnt will power available in pill form!!!!

[Oogaboogadoogaman]

Sorry. I havent read all 12 pages of this topic, you know. I thought omg's goal was to STOP SMOKING no matter what, whether it took 230 days or 23. Sorry if I screwed up your topic. :bye:

[TheVoid]

Originally posted by Oogaboogadoogaman@Jun 11 2005, 03:00 PM
Sorry. I havent read all 12 pages of this topic, you know. I thought omg's goal was to STOP SMOKING no matter what, whether it took 230 days or 23. Sorry if I screwed up your topic. :bye:

Hey you didn't do any harm, you just suggested a method. That's up to omg wether to follow it or not.

Back when I used to smoke a lot I also used to have serious pain in the chest, together with spitting some brown-greyish substance right from my lungs. It's simply another way of breathing when you haven't been smoking for a while, heck it's almost a pleasure just to breathe, whilst it used to be a pain during smoke time (expecially after a run or a long walk).