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[Ramidel]

Originally posted by Auri@Jan 13 2006, 03:37 AM
Yeah, once with cheating, I tried to see how thin I could get her, and I think it was 52lbs (can't remember how tall she was, though).

One I also tried to see how fat I could get her (but without cheating, so no max gain). And I think it was like... 168 or something like that.

Regardless of her weight, her image never changed all that much.

As for being queen...

This was my fourth or fifth daughter I think, and I was able to get her to queen with no cheating. She only did "fairly well" at her work, but I'm assuming that's because her morality wasn't that high. I think she had an end score of 1314.

What everyone else has said pretty much holds.
Refinement needs to be over 800, morality I think needs to be above a certain point (100, maybe? but higher is better, or she's an awful queen). Reps all in that 400 range somewhere, and no incredibly outstanding reputation (like Art at 200 or something).

Feel free to have an overstuffed cooking skill. That's how I handled the housework requirement: I had her always going to the fairies for cooking charms, and had a cooking of like...300. Didn't stop me from queening excellently.

[Auri]

Hmmm. Interesting. I just had her win the cooking festival three times. I usually just used the art faeries.

It was great, work her to the bone at the farm two of the three times a month, then take her to the forest, get her stress to 0, get the needed art points for the festival that year... and still end up with a gain in constitution.

I'm assuming with 300 cooking, her housework was still not her highest rep? Still, it seems like sometimes, even with social not her highest rep, if my art was above 120, she always ended up as a dancer or something. But I could be very confused there. I hate the stupid art careers. grrrr them.

[Ramidel]

Originally posted by Auri@Jan 13 2006, 08:00 PM
Hmmm. Interesting. I just had her win the cooking festival three times. I usually just used the art faeries.

It was great, work her to the bone at the farm two of the three times a month, then take her to the forest, get her stress to 0, get the needed art points for the festival that year... and still end up with a gain in constitution.

I'm assuming with 300 cooking, her housework was still not her highest rep? Still, it seems like sometimes, even with social not her highest rep, if my art was above 120, she always ended up as a dancer or something. But I could be very confused there. I hate the stupid art careers. grrrr them.

::blinks:: The forest fairies give cooking skill. The art fairies are one of the two sets at the lake.

No, housework was still the lowest rep. Her temperament and cleaning were not overly good.

Overly high art skill, however, makes you into an Artist rather than a Queen.

[Auri]

There are art faeries in the forest, I am 100% certain of this, as that's where I always use them (because I go to them during her second year, when she's too weak to go anywhere else). There are also cooking in the forest. The art are just a little south of the cooking, in that little area with the tree and the stumps.

I really, really would like to get a look at the code to see exactly how they program that qualifications. I think that would be awesome.

[BoldoAsesino]

[font=Geneva]Well, hello everybody. I'm new here at the forum, so I'd better introduce myself. Excuse me, I know all introducings are boring.

My name is Ezequiel, I'm 26 years old, and I'm from Buenos Aires, Argentina. I study Latin and Greek (I don't know how this degree is called on your universities). I play videogames since my childhood, when my fathers gave me a MSX-1 for my 1983 Xmas present. I still got a Pentium-100 at home that works perfectly; but I'm planning to buy a new PC this year. Since it's difficult to get brand new games for my machine this days, I downloaded a lot of games from this site; but I haven't participated on the forums until now because I got an account on GameSpot and it could get very difficult to me to post on two forums at the same time. But on that site, the forums of games that falled under the abandonware tag are somewhat dead. So, I decided it would be a good idea to join Abandonia, because it would be very nice to talk with people that, perhaps, is playing nowadays the same games as I do.

Well, I think it would be better to get on-topic now. :[img]http://www.abandonia.com/forum/html/emoticons/laugh.gif' border='0' style='vertical-align:middle' alt='laugh.gif' />

I got PM2 about 2, 3 years ago; and since then I always had a game of it running. I would say that PM2 came to my life to stay there forever, since Olive built his own house on my hard disk. I have recommended this game to everyone of my friends, and since it's a completely unknown game here in Argentina, I would say that I'm responsible for unleashing a minor PM2 fever on my city. :evil: I even posted a review for GameSpot. As to my friends, they got as hooked to it as myself, and we spent five months experimenting and trying to crack every secret. We even called each other at weird hours (like 4:23 in the morning) just to tell that we have got a completely new ending. By that time, we haven't looked for any guide or FAQ on the web because we wanted to do it on our own; and when we decided to search one for the sake of previewing what we have overlooked, we have cracked a 40% of the whole by ourselves.

What I think about this game is fairly logical... IT'S PERFECT!!! :w00t: k: :Brain:

Well, I don't want to write a telephone guide here... Let me say only this. I'm still playing it (coudn't be otherwise), but I have "infected" a friend of mine that is psychologist. We have talked a lot about PM2, and she says that this game could quite surely show hints to our quality as fathers, and, therefore, show hints about our paternal images. She says that it got something to do with Jungian archetypes and the superego. Since I'm not a psychologist, I couldn't say how long this is true; but it is very shocking that PM2 could be deep to that extent, isn't it?

I don't bother you anymore. We'll keep on touch. Thanks for reading. k: :bye:

[Auri]

BoldoAsesino, welcome to the board! I think it's very exciting that you have gotten so many people interested in this game.

I also admire how much you and your friends have done without any help from guides.

I only ever played two times all on my own before I started looking up secrets online. I have played a lot since, but now I know all the possible endings, and generally try to get one of them.

What's been your favorite ending that you've gotten?

[BoldoAsesino]

Thank you very much for your welcome, Auri!!! :<!--emo&LOL:--><!--endemo-->

Well, the first endings I got were pretty much the usual ones. The first time I played, I didn't got any clue at all about how this game was supposed to work, so I got an unhappy and bored housewife. :not_ok: My second one was somewhat better, as it became an average writer.

The third one was absolutely freakish, because it became a Fortune Teller, but she married Cube!!! :guns:

I think that the best ending I got was when my daughter became a successful painter. She got Sensitivity at maximum (999), Art at 354 (she won five art contests and I didn't pawn her Brush trophies), and I don't remember the other ones. Well, the ending text said something about that people came from the four corners of the kingdom to asist to my daughter's expositions, and because of her Sensitivity her paintings were so moving that people always come out crying! :w00t: I never thought that painting could get so threatening and dangerous!

What about you, Auri?

[Auri]

I think there are like... what? Around 50 careers? And also various degrees of how good you can be. And different husbands.

Let's see... well, the best ending I ever got was an average queen. I also had a fighter hero, but apparently she was too strong or something so she became arrogant. I was never sure what that was about. Haha... then there was the time I got a bondage queen who was incredible at her work. That made Venus mad.

my first ever ending though was an artist. I can't remember how good she was. I think my next ending after that was a bandit. But I felt bad for her, so I went back a month and got rid of all her sin, so she became a magician.

[Auri]

Heh. The first time my roommate ever played, she had a bored housewife too, who was told she needed to lose some weight. Now THAT was priceless.

So the very next day, my roommate decided she wanted to use the money cheat. I told her not to because it's more fun to know you can get your daughter to turn out well without the cheating...
But even with cheating, her daughter ended up being a farmer's wife. It was pretty funny. Anyway...


Edited to say:
Bah. Sorry for the double post. I didn't know we could edit.

Anyway, I'm still not sure Lindsey ever got the hang of the game without cheating. I think the best she ever got on her own was a General. It might have even been a Knight.

Originally posted by Ramidel+Jan 18 2006, 02:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ramidel @ Jan 18 2006, 02:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mongi@Jan 17 2006, 03:46 PM
arrrgghhhh.... Why, WHY, princess maker 3 was never translated into English??? * *

I'm DYING to play it.... I even started to study Japaneese! (Boy, is it a difficult language!!!) :blink:

Anyways, the hardest (without cheating of course) careers to achieve in PM2 are Archbishop and Queen of Darkness. Grand Poobah (aka normal Queen) is not that very difficult, once u understand the Reputation/Refinement paradox.

Queen of Darkness? That's easy.

500 sin
300 fighting rep
200 magic rep

May conflict with being a Bondage Queen...

Lots of special after-hours efforts at the sleazy bar when she's 17, presto, your fighter-mage is now in charge of evil worldwide.

As to Archbishop...the way to get it is to do a lot of churchwork. [/b][/quote]
1. It is very difficult to maintain rep requirements, cuz even in late teenage your daughter starts to run away very often once u make her work in sleazy bar (plus helluva lot of stress). Hence, the difficulties to make her Queen of Darkness.
2. Doing lot of churchwork ALWAYS made my daughter a NUN, not an Archbishop, though I had all reputations and charateristics as needed.