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Geez, I thought I was the only one who loved this game...Guess not! The only game I've played countlessly and it's never the same game twice, I love it.

Just thought I'd give a tip from a "professional" player...yeah right! I have passed the game with every single hero on NES. First off, River Dragon Sucks! The only way to win in the time limit is to flee to 39 and 40 and build from there. Second of all, I've heard no one mention the fact that Faceless in the NES version in preficture #2 is able to be recruited right away while your still in exile! He's by far the best person hands down to recruit and brother, the only thing is though you have to make it to preficture 2 before March of the first year, otherwise he flees to 3, 12, or 1! After you recruit him, rest the entire year in preficture 2 until Feb. of the next year. Then settle in #2 in February, then you can hunt for food in march, sell it in in may, and give to Faceless in June. Follow those three simple suggestions and you'll be off to the best start.

NES version facts:
1. People come and go but only at the change of the seasons. i.e. spring, summer, winter and fall. So don't rush to recruit someone when they first appear, unless you have nothing better to do.
2. The best prefictures to settle in when you begin the game are: 2,13,22,39/40 all of these have the ability to buy arms, ships or both. This is critical in building your armies.
3. Waiting for people to come to you is impossible. After you make your fisrt brother go on a recruiting spree with your main charecter. Travel to all the empty prefictures you can get to and try to recruit some heroes. Just recruit, give to em, and move to the next one. Rumoring in the downtown will point you in the correct path when recruiting. Multiple rumoring will yield different people who want to join you and where they are located.
4. Fighting beast builds your "heart" and gains you popularity in recruiting. Do it as much as possible.

Battle hints:
1. When your being attacked, only place the number of heroes on the field equal to the castles you have. When one goes, just reinforce (in the castle of coarse). This will maximize the damage you do and the minimize your casualties.
2. To weaken Gao Qiu, build an army in a adjacent preficture. Make sure you have 100 training and arms, and then move enough heroes out to make yourself appear weak. i.e. Keep 4-6 heroes in the preficture to defend (5 is usually perfect). If Gao Qiu has superior numbers (not strength) he will threaten and attack. Then wipe the floor with him (using the first hint) and capture all the heroes that you can. I once captured all 10 of his heroes while only losing less than 100 men.
3. Set him up! If you can capture the leader of the battle you capture all of his heroes and men that are still on the battle field. Think of way to lure the captain in and swarm him with all you got...be cautious though. If you don't capture him in one attempt he will flee! This may be done by reinforcing your troops not adjacent to, but within charging distance of the captain. i.e. 1-2 squares away.

Anything else you wanna know I could probably tell you cuz I know the game inside out. Also, saving before a battle is the best way to cheat to victory. If you lose, RESET!!! And try again, or don't repeat the same stupid mistake twice.

Originally posted by Christian IV@Jun 16 2005, 03:50 PM
:bye: :bye:
This does sound like an intriguing game, it was a fascinating
time in Ancient Chinese History, the warring kingdoms,
what a universe of history all its own, thanks for getting
this one for us......will be intriguing.

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The background of Bandit King is actually not really a time of warring states. The game is based on Shuihu Chuan, a.k.a. Outlaws of the Marsh, a long, epic Chinese novel about, well, bandits. Sort of a Robin Hood type of story, if you will.

[Borodin]

Originally posted by Sean@Oct 20 2005, 03:27 PM
This is a favorite game of mine as well. Its based on a classic Chinese story. One translation is called Outlaws of the Marsh, it pretty good. The full version is something like 105 chapters. Very lengthy.

Yeah, but it's an extremely easy read. It's more like a series of linked short stories than a novel.

Five things (1-3 on game play, 4-5 on setup/documents)

1) The two most important territories in the game are #10 and #20 (Jun and Ji). It takes a while, but you need to take them over. When you occupy them both and have support in them high enough you create a special mountain lair. This makes your popularity sky rocket.

2) If you don't know who would make a good brother and who wouldn't, the easiest way to find good people is to use the people that you can select from when you start the game. They tend to lead their own territories. Corner them, capture them, imprison them, and then recruit them. One time I decided that I wanted to hold onto wizards, so I made them all brothers. It didn't work very well...especially since you bothers tend to do more work than other people and you need wizards to have "body" left in battles.

3) Invite to lair is a great command... it costs money and you have to have enough space in your castle to except everyone, but it works well. Zhu Wu (the spelling might be wrong on that) is probably the most likely to accept an invitation early on. You do need to have several territories and some popularity, but you can probably invite him to join you before you could even recruit any other wizard. It also works to invite people who would be good brothers. You get their people and a good brother out of it. Well worth the few hundred it costs to make the offer and the few thousand to get them over.

4) If you can't get it to work, go to the dosbox tutorial on Abandonia. http://www.abandonia.com/main.php?nav=index&FAQ=1 It shows step by step everything you need to do. If you don't have the emulator set up correctly, it won't work. Their are a few different executables. The file you need to run is Koei.exe.

5) If you want the instruction book, map, files that work etc. Go get get 'em: http://www.abandonia.com/games/502/downloa...ncientChina.htm. Just follow the links. I find that replacementdocs.com is very slow. Right click on the link you want to download and click "save to disk." Trying to view them online doesn't seem to work for me.

Originally posted by Long John@Jun 20 2005, 03:16 PM
Got i running now! k:

Having abit of a problem understanding all the number-menus, is there a manual somewhere?

the last guy who posted something about where to get manuals proposed one place.
but, here's another site which you might wanna take a look at (mind you, i've never been to this site--- it's been proposed by abandonia itself though).

http://www.replacementdocs.com/download.php?view.1978

This is such a great game but every sight on the internet I can download it from ends up being a non-color version. Does anyone know where I can get a color version? Black and white makes the game hard to play

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This is such a great game but every sight on the internet I can download it from ends up being a non-color version. Does anyone know where I can get a color version? Black and white makes the game hard to play
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The downloadable via this site is in colour ( on my PC ( Windows 98, Pentium II + MMX ) anyway ).
If you get it in Black & White it may be due to your system ( the game system requirements info. says that the game plays in B&W on CGA and in colour on EGA ). I presume CGA & EGA are to do with the graphics?

Great game its hard to believe this was made in 1989. I started playing this game when I was 9 years old and hardly could understand a word in English (luckily my dad was addicted to it) If you really like this game I recommend you get the amiga version and play it on a amiga emulator. Graphics and music are way better on it and you can also use a mouse.

Same goes for Genghis Kahn btw

Some tips I havent read so far:
-A hero can use magic when his intelligence is 80 or higher
-Wizards can only use magic when the weather is clouded
-Heroes have a chance to directly hit an enemy hero when their dexterity is above 82 and they need 60 to shoot
- Almost every action a hero makes will give him experience
- When you try to recruit a hero and he refuses you will lose popularity this is why there are bones (took me a while to find out)
- In the beginning divide your heroes you can send heroes to an emptry country and they will build it for you it might help to set orders to internal affairs. Just dont stack your heroes in 1 country since you can only use 1 every month. Also when 1 heroes works all the others will gain +5 body (so the ideal number of heroes to build a country is 3)

Link for amiga emulator http://www.winuae.net/
If you cant find the game on google I can send it with email.

Originally posted by Khgoh@May 19 2005, 03:25 PM
The only sound effects for this game is from the PC speaker..
There's no music..

It is a shame that the pc version of this game is crappier than the amiga 500 version i still have somewhere. I remember some of the tunes and sound fx were really cool. (I think the graphics wer 256 colour too?) Awesome game as far as gameplay goes, really detailed, spent hours on this one once upon a time.

You can download the manual here:


http://vimmslair.com/


Enjoy!


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