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Tulac These people claim that earth... 15-06-2005, 09:07 PM

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Danny252 further down... something... 16-06-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by R Havell@Jun 17 2005, 07:41 AM
Is it just coincidence that all of the galaxies in the universe are moving away from a single point in space? And that their speeds are such that if one were to rewind time they all would have been at that same point at the same time? That time being several billion years ago.

Did the big bang just explode? Then how did everything start rotating? Or was the matter spinning first then it exploded?

Even more importantly where did the big bang come from. What exploded? Where did the energy come for the explosion to happen? Where did the space come from for the matter to expand into? Where did the matter come from? Either it created itself or matter is eternal.

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